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  GB Doesn’t Believe in 1914 Anymore – My reasoning

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  i have heard a lot of talk over the last year or so if the gb will eventually ditch 1914 and some have even made the claim that most, if not all of the gb do not believe in 1914. ive given this some thought and in the past i wasnt sure.

  this annual meeting puts 100%, without a doubt in my mind that the gb do not believe in 1914. id even go as far to say that they talked about that date and have a game plan in mind.. here is why i feel this way:.

  there were a lot of changes with the parables at this annual meeting.

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  Very insightful comments done4good.
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  New understanding of the GB/FDS

  by Awakened at Gilead in

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  hahahaha!!!

  i predicted this 4 years ago!.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyjca1-q60.

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  Interesting question Blondie, from a year ago, which no one has bothered to try and answer.

  If C T Russell is now likened to John the Baptist and John the Baptist did not go to heaven, does that suggest perhaps there is new light coming that the 144,000 is going to be reclassified as a modern day, post-1914 group only????

  Rev 7

  12 tribes of Israel = all those with a heavenly calling from 33C.E. onwards

  144,000 = modern day group only, formed post-1914

  Great crowd = earthly class only

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  Watchtower circulation jumps up!

  by factfinder in

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  the jan. 1, 2015 w shows an updated printing of 52,946,000 copies each issue in 228 languages.. this is an increase of 7,002,000 copies per issue over last year, this is the biggest increase i have seen in the printing of the w per issue for any one year.

  thus, including the study edition over 70 million copies of the w are now being printed each month.. .

  i wonder if awake!

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  how many languages before?
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  Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

  by Mr Negative in

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  my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

  i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

  is this true?

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  I bet your mum also believes they removed the word "gullible" out of the latest edition of Webster's Dictionary.
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  Anthony Morris III delivers judgement on Branch at Annual Meeting

  by Listener in

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  this is part of the speech that anthony morris iii gave during his time in the limelight at the 2014 annual meeting.. at 3.16.32 of the recorded meeting.

  "what role do those with an earthly hope play?

  oh oh ho veeeery important role, very important.

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  Jesus never did exist,

  LOL. You do talk a lot of tripe most of the time WTWizard.
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  GB Doesn’t Believe in 1914 Anymore – My reasoning

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have heard a lot of talk over the last year or so if the gb will eventually ditch 1914 and some have even made the claim that most, if not all of the gb do not believe in 1914. ive given this some thought and in the past i wasnt sure.

  this annual meeting puts 100%, without a doubt in my mind that the gb do not believe in 1914. id even go as far to say that they talked about that date and have a game plan in mind.. here is why i feel this way:.

  there were a lot of changes with the parables at this annual meeting.

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  I agree with Vanderhoven. They will never abandon the date nor its chronology but they will simply change the focus on it.

  I also agree that some on the GB no longer believe or are very skeptical. Ray Franz said in ISOCF that even back in his time some GB members were saying they weren't sure about it anymore.

  The fact that the pictures at the back of the new NWT translation does not mention Jesus' enthronement as king in 1914 but only Satan's ousting from heaven 'about' then is VERY telling imho and a strong clue of things to come.

  I believe they will eventually de-link Christ's enthronement and the establishment of the Kingdom in heaven from the date and shift it to the great tribulation, along with the ousting of Satan and the demons, the ride of the four horsemen, and the resurrection of the dead 144k. All these events will be shifted to the great tribulation.

  1914 will be watered down to mean nothing more than Jesus' PAROUSIA began in 1914 in a spiritual sense only, ie, as the 'messenger of the covenant' who came to his spiritual temple per Malachi 3:1, not as newly enthroned king. 1919 will remain as the year Jesus cleansed his spiritual temple and selected the Watchtower leadership as his FDS.

  The vision of the giant tree chopped down in Daniel will be explained away as: the kingdom was only an unbanded tree stump in 1914 and began to regrow then, but Jesus is not enthroned until the tree is fully regrown at the outbreak of the great tribulation.

  None of this will happen for quite a few years to come.
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  How do Jehovah's Witnesses get around this one?

  by runForever in

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  i am the vine; you are the branches.

  if you remain in me and i in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing.if you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned.".

  according to jehovah's witnesses this only applies to the annointed brothers of christ.

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  You're a smartass designs. I'm talking about the Bible as commonly accepted. Canonised scripture. This is a JW forum and JW's and all other Christians use the Bible, got it?
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  Let's Review: It's a cult!

  by Oubliette in

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  just in case any of you were wondering: let's review: it's a cult!.

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  Not all agree. From the Wikipaedia article 'Criticism of Jehovah's Witnesses':

  Description as a "cult"

  Authors Anthony A. Hoekema, Ron Rhodes [191] and Alan W. Gomes, [192] claim Jehovah's Witnesses is a religious cult. Hoekema bases his judgment on a range of what he describes as general characteristics of a cult, including the tendency to elevate peripheral teachings (such as door-to-door witnessing) to great prominence, extra-scriptural source of authority (Hoekema highlights Watch Tower teachings that the Bible may be understood only as it is interpreted by the Governing Body), a view of the group as the exclusive community of the saved (Watch Tower publications teach that Witnesses alone are God's people and only they will survive Armageddon) and the group's central role in eschatology (Hoekema says Witness publications claim the group was called into existence by God to fill in a gap in the truth neglected by existing churches, marking the climax of sacred history). [193]

  Jehovah's Witnesses state that they are not a cult [194] and say that although individuals need proper guidance from God, they should do their own thinking. [195] [196] Witnesses state that they are saved by the ransom sacrifice of God's Son and undeserved kindness, that there is no one that can earn salvation. [197] American religious scholar J. Gordon Melton, [198] cult deprogrammer John Bowen Brown II, [199] and Knocking producer Joel P. Engardio also reject the claims that Witnesses are a cult. [200] [201] The two volume encyclopedia Contemporary American Religion stated: "Various critics and ex-members in recent years have wrongly labeled Jehovah’s Witnesses a 'cult.'" [202]
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  900 Top Scientists Sign Statement Skeptical of Macro-Evolution

  by Perry in

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  we are skeptical of claims for the ability of random mutation and natural .

  selection to account for the complexity of life.

  careful examination of the .

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  Ha look at the angry atheist braincleaned turning ad hominem on me now. Who is losing their grip - someone who admits to hating religion with a passion that is self-admittedly bitter who confesses he no longer loves his family. Sad.
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  At what point will there be more ex-JWs than active JWs?

  by NewYork44M in

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  given the flow out of the organization and the inability to find new recruits, there should be a tipping point where the ex's out number the actives.

  has there been any discussion related to this topic?.

  because many within the organization are not true believers and are in various stages of exit this calculation is some what complicated.

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  There's a tonne of phoneys and double-lifer's in the organisation and they're increasing. The disfellowshipping doctrine is the only thing keeping huge numbers of them in. Take that away and the org would rapidly deflate like a farting balloon.